An exclusive interview with Wong Chen, Parti Keadilan Rakyat*, Member of Parliament for Kelana Jaya, Selangor, 5 June 2014.
Some background and other views on Teluk Intan by-election here: /khoryuleng/2014/05/dap-suffers-loss-at-teluk-intan-by.html
*Parti Keadilan Rakyat is led by Anwar Ibrahim, the de facto leader of Pakatan Rakyat, the opposition coalition that includes the Democratic Action Party (DAP) and Parti Seislam Malaysia (PAS). DAP has long been Chinese controlled and oriented, and is strong in the urban sector, benefiting from malapportionment just as BN-UMNO benefits in the rural sector. PAS is an Islamic party and it is strong in NE Peninsular Malaysia. In the 13th General Election (GE13) on 5 May 2013, the opposition won the popular vote but BN-UMNO retained power, particularly by falling back into its semi-urban and rural strongholds, substantially losing power in the urban sector.
Q: Teluk Intan; what is your take on the semi-urban and rural voters?
Some background and other views on Teluk Intan by-election here: /khoryuleng/2014/05/dap-suffers-loss-at-teluk-intan-by.html
Khor Yu Leng has researched and written about the political economy of Felda and Johor-Iskandar and voting outcomes in GE13 (with a focus on rural voting behaviours). Some highlights here: /khoryuleng/2014/04/malaysia-political-economy-of-felda-and.html. These works will be published in an academic journal and two books in 2014-2015. She was Visiting Fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in 2013. She is married to Wong Chen.
Some background and other views on Teluk Intan by-election here: /khoryuleng/2014/05/dap-suffers-loss-at-teluk-intan-by.html
*Parti Keadilan Rakyat is led by Anwar Ibrahim, the de facto leader of Pakatan Rakyat, the opposition coalition that includes the Democratic Action Party (DAP) and Parti Seislam Malaysia (PAS). DAP has long been Chinese controlled and oriented, and is strong in the urban sector, benefiting from malapportionment just as BN-UMNO benefits in the rural sector. PAS is an Islamic party and it is strong in NE Peninsular Malaysia. In the 13th General Election (GE13) on 5 May 2013, the opposition won the popular vote but BN-UMNO retained power, particularly by falling back into its semi-urban and rural strongholds, substantially losing power in the urban sector.
Q: Teluk Intan; what is your take on the semi-urban and rural voters?
I spent a year and half, from 2011 to 2012,
working the ground. Bentong is about one hour north of Kuala Lumpur by highway.
This is a semi-urban and rural constituency with similar demographics to Teluk
Intan, with 47% Chinese voters, 42% Malay voters, 8% Indian voters and 3% Orang
Asli voters. It is a large parliamentary seat with four state seats (DUNs) and
several FELDA settlements. The bulk of the Chinese are in Bentong town along
with a sizeable Malay population of civil servants. In addition there were also
a lot of small rural Chinese villages. Indians were mostly living in rubber
estates and in towns.
I campaigned everywhere, getting to know
the imams, village heads, estate workers, Chinese local tai-kors. I organised
friendly football games to get to know the youth in the Felda settlements. This
attracted the entire village to come out to watch the game. I also attended
weddings and funerals. I like to believe that I got to know the social
structure of the place quite well. The first six months was exploratory and I
fumbled around, but subsequently the villagers believed that I was there for
the long haul and started to welcome my visits.
Q.
It sounds like you were intended as potential “parachute” candidate. How did
the local politicians take to that?
I was asked by PKR HQ to contest in
Bentong, to take down the MCA leader (then deputy leader) Liow Tiong Lai. They
chose me because I am a Chinese with a Kelantanese background. Liow himself is
from Melaka. My Kelantanese creds was supposed to give me a swing of Malay
rural voter support.
However, I found myself spending 60% of my
time fighting local PKR and local DAP politicians who really disliked the fact
that I was “parachuted in.” I was even physically threatened by some PKR people.
It was all a bit funny, in retrospect. DAP and PKR in Bentong had been fighting
tooth and nail for years over which party should contest in Bentong. My
presence had united them. For the first time ever, they worked together- but to
get rid of me!
In contrast, the PAS team was supportive
and proved to be genuine ally in my efforts to engage with the people of
Bentong. Eventually, this 2008 PKR seat went back to DAP in 2013 and Wong Tuck
(not a relation) stood as the candidate and lost. I was sent to Kelana Jaya and
won. I am happy to be serving in an urban area and I still have fond memories
of my time in Bentong.
Q.
How were you able to engage with Malay and Chinese voters in Bentong?
First, you need local introducers to take you
to the people of influence. You need to make deep connections with them. Not
just superficial ones. This can only be done by spending time to dine with
them, attend their functions, and by talking to them one-on-one. Once you convince
this person - be it the village head or local boss - that you are genuine, they
will then take you to meet the village. It takes about three visits to break
the ice.
Malay rural folk are shy at first. They are
wary of strangers, more so than urban people. They have their own way of doing
things – certain mannerisms and etiquette. They shake hands in a gentle way. I
had to relearn a few basic things – to speak in a softer manner, not to be so
direct, to eat with my hands, and to greet people in the proper manner. Since I
am unable to talk much about Islam, I chose to socialise with them by playing
football.
In the rural Chinese villages, the local
guys are quite rough, and I used a different approach. For the Chinese
kampungs, I will walk into the local coffee shop and start debating. You need
to have a straight forward approach when dealing with them. You need to swear,
spit and laugh. On my second visit, the folks there bought me drinks. The
bantering is crude but they liked the fact that I was extremely direct and
unpretentious.
Q.
What political logistical issues do you see in a semi-urban / rural
constituency?
Time. You need a lot of time. And you need to
use of a 4-wheel drive vehicle to get around. You need a driver and a team.
Getting to a rural Felda settlement in Chemomoi took me 3.5 hours from KL.
To-and-fro, that’s 7 hours travelling and you have 3 hours to do some work to
engage the public there. So, when I didn’t have the support of Bentong local
PKR politicians – it was hell. I was coming home way past midnight because the
Malay kampong ceramahs start at 9pm, after prayers.
Clearly, you also need money – for the
driver, car and team. Moreover, rural folks expect you to come with an
entourage (“rombongan”) to prove that you are a big man and hence, electable. This
means that you have to pay for three cars to accompany you. Initially I
advanced money for fuel and food and nobody showed up! It is imperative to
build a reliable local team. It took me close to a year to get the team together.
So in the Teluk Intan case, and everywhere else, you cannot parachute in for
two weeks and hope to win over the hearts and minds of the people.
Q. What
do you think drives non-urban Chinese voting behaviour?
Chinese folk in Bentong are worried about their
illegal land status. They worry about the prices of rubber and palm oil. Most
are relatively comfortable – that’s why they haven’t left the village. They
make decent income and they await the return visits of their children from the
cities during holidays. They hardly interact with other races. And when they
do, it is mostly on a friendly basis. They do not see national issues, such as
Hudud to be a reality in their life. Conceptually they understand, but they do
not see it as part of their world. Hence, I don’t think it is a deciding factor
in their voting. More important to them are basic economics and wanting to
maintain a peaceful life. They wile away their time with minor vices – mah jong
and illegal 4D betting. Some like to fish. Most like to talk about politics –
contrary to their laidback life, they are very well informed. So I would say
economics first then other issues. In a non-contentious economic cycle year,
then it all boils down to whether they like you or not.
Q.
What are important issues for non-urban Malay voters?
In a candidate, they seek someone who is
one of them – a local, a Malay of some standing and from a good family. I leveraged
on the fact that my father is a Datuk. Therefore, they assume that I must come
from an important family. A candidate with a large network of family ties will
guarantee a rural win. So, if you don’t come from there, you better be the best
friend of the guy there with the biggest family network.
Malay voters are also worried about palm
oil and rubber prices. About 30% are religious and the rest are just normal
folks. Most are also well-informed about national politics. A typical Malay
Felda smallholder is in his early late 50s to 60s. He has Indonesian workers
that he will send to work on his farm from 8am and pick up at 2pm. He is free
to chat with other 60 year olds from 9am to 2pm every day. They are
professional conversationalists. When I was there, the biggest topic was
Sharizat’s cow scandal. They loved to hear my views and bought me drinks. They
are generally a happy lot. They were earning around RM3,000 per month. Palm oil
and rubber prices were good. The biggest impact that I made on them was to show
them a video of the Bersih 2.0 rally with the police beating the protestors. At
a ceramah, they requested that I replay the 3-minute video in a continuous
loop, about 10 times. I believe they are not prone to sensational images, but I
really connected with them on the basic issue of fairness and justice. They
will elect you if they like you, and they will tell their friends to elect you.
They liked a Chinese who could speak Kelantanese and could eat with his hands.
Q. Given
your knowledge and experience of the above, how do you interpret the Teluk
Intan by-election outcome?
Teluk Intan was a gamble by DAP. They have
a national agenda to attract Malay members and voters en masse, contingent upon
Dyana winning. Mathematically with a 7,300 majority, DAP should not have lost. The
unintended consequence of this election is DAP had given a new lease of life to
Gerakan, giving them a ministerial post to their president.
Based on my own experience in Bentong, my suspicion
is the local DAP team were not fully on board. They probably did not do enough
to ensure her victory. This doesn’t mean that this was deliberate, but likely that
there was not enough local buy in. Local folks are also suspicious of snooty
urbanites telling them what to do. I suffered hell in my early months in
Bentong only to find out 6 months later that I had not “asked permission” from
local warlords in the proper manner. I was accused of “tak beri salam” before
starting work in Bentong.
I personally believe that the DAP election
team would have performed better under the guidance of the likes of YB Liew Chin
Tong, who is humble, hardworking and understands rural folks. In GE13, he
proved himself by capturing several Chinese rural seats in Johor.
Being a parachute candidate, Dyana shouldn’t
be supported by a parachute election team. Only the locals could introduce her
and get her the needed support. She had a national image campaign and became a media
darling. Unfortunately, the media fawning did not translate to localized
support. So, the campaign team will have to bear responsibility. I thought she
worked hard, kept her composure and smiled a lot. To really ensure rural
victory, you just have to clock in the time with a slow-slow approach and you
have to work on the personal touch. In other words, was Dyana embedded there months
earlier, when YB Seah became very sick?
Q.
Some people ask if rural Chinese are unable to vote for a young Malay girl. What
do you think?
Sadly, racism and racist attitudes define
Malaysia. The Chinese do not have an absolute moral high ground on this matter.
It is pretty clear from the numbers that race was a factor. The Chinese
majority seat will prefer a Chinese representative. Is that racism? If we turn
the tables around, we have to ask if a Malay majority seat would want a
non-Malay candidate.
But I don’t think rural folk are more prone
to racism than urban folk. If DAP had fielded a well-regarded local Malay
personality, someone from Teluk Intan, I suspect the results would have been better.
Whilst the “local boy” factor does not mean much in the urban setting, it means
the world in a rural setting.
I will venture to guess that Dyana’s
Achilles heel emerged at the very late stages of the election campaigning – Perkasa.
Her mother was exposed as a founding pro-tem committee member of Perkasa and Dyana
herself helped her mother with memberships. I suspect that her initial denial and
subsequent admission let a lot of DAP loyalists down. There was talk that the
revelations shook the core cadre of the local machinery. After all, many
KL-ites were also questioning her past and asking why no thorough background
checks and/or early disclosures were made.
Q.
Was Hudud a factor?
Hudud is being pursued by both PAS and UMNO
via the so called joint study committee. Dyana was against Hudud. So if Hudud
was a factor, logically she would have gotten more Chinese votes. For the Malay
campaign, I was told that DAP relied heavily on PAS’s machinery. There was talk
that PAS did not really want to support an anti-Hudud and non tudung wearing
candidate. However, the numbers do not support this theory because the Malay
votes actually increased a bit. I was told that the projected percentage Malay
swing was 6% but she only managed half at 3%. I think it is somewhat unfair to
blame PAS for this shortfall. Ultimately the DAP election team has to plan and
execute according to the political landscape.
Rural folks and Hudud? Are Malay rural
folks more religious? I really don’t think so. It is true that religion is a
very big part of their lives but it does not necessarily translate to votes. If
all rural folks were religious, PAS would be in Putrajaya today. Rural folks
are primarily and largely economic driven. Whilst they are not buying Bursa
stocks and pondering about derivatives, they worry about real economic issues
of inflation, the price of fertilisers and what their rubber and palm oil will
get them.
Q. What
has the Opposition learned from Teluk Intan and how do you move forward?
We need to go back to basics. We need to defend
our urban seats. This means good governance and better delivery. Walk the talk.
Selangor needs to buck up. Most importantly, Pakatan Rakyat needs to stick
together and not take divisive positions. It is crazy that having won the
popular vote, we are now acting as if we had failed miserably in GE13.
Moving forward, to win Putrajaya, we need
to win some 30 rural seats. Teluk Intan taught us a few things. Local candidates
are best. Try not to parachute in a candidate for a rural seat. If you do, you
need ample time to settle in. You need local support and in lieu of that, you
need resources to build up a fresh election team. There are no real vote banks
in Peninsular rural areas. That being the case, it means that all seats are in
fact winnable. The team that plans well, works well and works hardest will win.
An exclusive interview with Wong Chen, Parti Keadilan Rakyat, Member of Parliament for Kelana Jaya, 5 June 2014.Some background and other views on Teluk Intan by-election here: /khoryuleng/2014/05/dap-suffers-loss-at-teluk-intan-by.html
Khor Yu Leng has researched and written about the political economy of Felda and Johor-Iskandar and voting outcomes in GE13 (with a focus on rural voting behaviours). Some highlights here: /khoryuleng/2014/04/malaysia-political-economy-of-felda-and.html. These works will be published in an academic journal and two books in 2014-2015. She was Visiting Fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in 2013. She is married to Wong Chen.